chanduv23
11-11 01:24 PM
I have a nine month old and I can understand your feelings. I hired a nanny through sulekha but did a lot of reference checking and tried her when my parents were around here in US and they monitored her carefully and then gave us the green signal to keep her before they left.
So not all nannies are like that. There are good nannies too. I pay a lot of money a lot more compared to what thunderbolt quoted ONLY because we found her to be nice and caring. She gets calls from her earlier employers who say their kids want to speak with nanny and say hello.
It is just your bad luck. Nannycams are very useful and plan to get one for myself just for my satisfaction even though we are happy with our nanny.
Like someone suggested - daycare would be a good option and I even thought about it but a 8 month old kid may catch alleriges easily and thats why I backed off too.
Now about legal recourse - the best thing is to get out of any kind of mess. You were aware that you must not hire a nanny illegally and now you pay the price. No problem. Just say good bye to her and be careful next time
So not all nannies are like that. There are good nannies too. I pay a lot of money a lot more compared to what thunderbolt quoted ONLY because we found her to be nice and caring. She gets calls from her earlier employers who say their kids want to speak with nanny and say hello.
It is just your bad luck. Nannycams are very useful and plan to get one for myself just for my satisfaction even though we are happy with our nanny.
Like someone suggested - daycare would be a good option and I even thought about it but a 8 month old kid may catch alleriges easily and thats why I backed off too.
Now about legal recourse - the best thing is to get out of any kind of mess. You were aware that you must not hire a nanny illegally and now you pay the price. No problem. Just say good bye to her and be careful next time
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vikki76
08-12 02:46 PM
Even I was wondering same thing- Notice Date or Received Date. USCIS website says Received date is taken into account while looking at service centers processing times.
Here is exact line-
"IMPORTANT: If your receipt notice date is earlier then the processing date shown, we suggest you call our USCIS Customer Service Office at 1-800-375-5283 for assistance."
Of course, I personally wish that Notice Date takes precedence as it is not our fault that one file just kept on sitting and in saga of moving dates and PD, each day makes a difference.
Well, that may not be quite correct. Service centers claim that they process cases in order they receive them. Receive Date on the receipt is the official RD (the mail room receive date) by USCIS. It is not the date case was received by a center. In the above case, files were just waiting somewhere between Aug 17 and Oct 16. Texas center perhaps opened the case on Oct 16, entered it in the system and sent out a notice. Online status perhaps shows "...your case was received on Oct 16...". So, as far as Texas center is concerned they received the case on Oct. 16.
Thus, as curent processing times are at August 23, 2007, dwhuser case file is yet to be opened. Since file is not yet opened, no one yet knows his/her PD (it is nowhere other than on paper files). So the case waits - his/her PD may get current and pass. Of course, Aug 17 '07 to Oct 16, '07, was not dwhuser's fault, but it put him/her behind a lot of cases whose files were accepted/opened by a center in the meantime.
Why so? Because USCIS prime systems are not designed for huge volumes, or PD's so much in the waiting.
Here is exact line-
"IMPORTANT: If your receipt notice date is earlier then the processing date shown, we suggest you call our USCIS Customer Service Office at 1-800-375-5283 for assistance."
Of course, I personally wish that Notice Date takes precedence as it is not our fault that one file just kept on sitting and in saga of moving dates and PD, each day makes a difference.
Well, that may not be quite correct. Service centers claim that they process cases in order they receive them. Receive Date on the receipt is the official RD (the mail room receive date) by USCIS. It is not the date case was received by a center. In the above case, files were just waiting somewhere between Aug 17 and Oct 16. Texas center perhaps opened the case on Oct 16, entered it in the system and sent out a notice. Online status perhaps shows "...your case was received on Oct 16...". So, as far as Texas center is concerned they received the case on Oct. 16.
Thus, as curent processing times are at August 23, 2007, dwhuser case file is yet to be opened. Since file is not yet opened, no one yet knows his/her PD (it is nowhere other than on paper files). So the case waits - his/her PD may get current and pass. Of course, Aug 17 '07 to Oct 16, '07, was not dwhuser's fault, but it put him/her behind a lot of cases whose files were accepted/opened by a center in the meantime.
Why so? Because USCIS prime systems are not designed for huge volumes, or PD's so much in the waiting.
franklin
07-17 07:41 PM
I thank all new contributors, I think the efforts from members in the last 2 weeks are truly inspiring.
If you haven't done already, please consider contributing and donating some money to IV. It is entirely run from our donations (and the shortfall made up by the core team).
Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all! The battle is won, the war is far from over
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
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If you haven't done already, please consider contributing and donating some money to IV. It is entirely run from our donations (and the shortfall made up by the core team).
Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all! The battle is won, the war is far from over
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
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redds777
06-16 12:11 PM
Thank you New horizon .
That is the least i could do for you guys . lets keep in touch and fight for our cause.
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Redds777
I was one of the guys from MI that redds777 hosted. I must say I can't thank enough for the hospitality he and his family had shown us.
Also I know a couple of other DC members who hosted outside folks. Thanks to them also.
That is the least i could do for you guys . lets keep in touch and fight for our cause.
Thanks
Redds777
I was one of the guys from MI that redds777 hosted. I must say I can't thank enough for the hospitality he and his family had shown us.
Also I know a couple of other DC members who hosted outside folks. Thanks to them also.
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micofrost
07-17 10:11 PM
I salute you.
Thanks you and will stay beside you for our future struggle.
Gold Bless IV and USCIS and DOS.
Thanks you and will stay beside you for our future struggle.
Gold Bless IV and USCIS and DOS.
santb1975
11-20 04:46 PM
We have had similar experiences in Southern California as well. We are about a group of 10 - 15 ppl. in so.cal who actively take part in the action items and contribute inspite of having 113 registered members in the chapter. We recruited over 200 newbies in the past three events in southern california. Let's see if we can get all of them to register and get active
Sorry for spelling your name wrong in the Title
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paskal
12-19 02:44 PM
IV members!
We are 74 contributors to this campaign by my count...and not everyone posts here...not to mention 4 outstanding challenges that must be met :D
Thank you all for responding to my request, i feel honored to be a part of this group. 74 out of 3,000 members is still a drop in the ocean though, please continue to encourage all the bystanders, contact friends, post on active threads, whatever it takes...we need this...for us.
Don't forget the add a member drive either, we still have a way towards the goal of 10,000 members!
We are 74 contributors to this campaign by my count...and not everyone posts here...not to mention 4 outstanding challenges that must be met :D
Thank you all for responding to my request, i feel honored to be a part of this group. 74 out of 3,000 members is still a drop in the ocean though, please continue to encourage all the bystanders, contact friends, post on active threads, whatever it takes...we need this...for us.
Don't forget the add a member drive either, we still have a way towards the goal of 10,000 members!
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easygoer
02-25 08:38 AM
This is a very good idea. Someone from core team should chalk out the implementation plan. This is a win win situation for all. We are ready to participate whatever way core team plan it.
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arc
08-14 01:47 PM
I guess if your receipt number starts with SRC, it was processed at TSC.
It starts from LIN so its NSC I guess!
It starts from LIN so its NSC I guess!
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PlainSpeak
04-16 03:22 PM
can't argue with people who pretend not to understand.
Of millions of people only you say F1 is fraud. does a sigle person's opinion make it a fact?
Why don't u brush up your reasoning skills?
Oh you will agree that i understand only if i agree with your point of view else you will cal me a person who pretends not to understand.
Where are the million people who say it is not a fraud. I dont see them. All i see is you and your EB2 crowd and what is their count 20 k, 30k ??
A single persons opinion is not a fact but this single person point of view is shared with a bunch of people who are more that 30 k so you dissing me does not make me wrong
Of millions of people only you say F1 is fraud. does a sigle person's opinion make it a fact?
Why don't u brush up your reasoning skills?
Oh you will agree that i understand only if i agree with your point of view else you will cal me a person who pretends not to understand.
Where are the million people who say it is not a fraud. I dont see them. All i see is you and your EB2 crowd and what is their count 20 k, 30k ??
A single persons opinion is not a fact but this single person point of view is shared with a bunch of people who are more that 30 k so you dissing me does not make me wrong
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nonimmi
09-08 11:36 AM
Yes,, they did...
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
If you know so much about US then you must know this -
"immigrants were one of the key founders in more than a quarter of all the engineering and technology companies set up in the U.S. between 1995 and 2005. Further, it counted $52 billion in annual sales by these immigrant-founded companies, which employed 450,000 workers in 2005. "
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india/article.cfm?articleid=4205
Read what industry leaders from Microsoft, Google, Intel and Sun are talking about. Why they look to India and China. You dont want to understand this. Thats fine too. You did not have proper education to know this. Ask your parents why they neglected you while finding their soulmates (or ****buddies).
You "dumb and dumber" people just used this country and thought no one will ever challenge you. Now that you know very well your good old days are over you're talking all garbage. Go and hide where you can. You're not lucky enough to enjoy this country like your grandfathers did!! Bad luck buddy.
Keep talking rubbish if you wish as you've nothing better to do.
Our forefathers travelled to the promised land in ships that were full of rats, without food or water. Several of them died while trying to reach here.
Once here on the promised land, we had to fight our way to create a free society that you are dying to be part of. America is land of entrepreneurs.
And any one that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit is not welcomed here.
What do you have to bring to the table?
If you know so much about US then you must know this -
"immigrants were one of the key founders in more than a quarter of all the engineering and technology companies set up in the U.S. between 1995 and 2005. Further, it counted $52 billion in annual sales by these immigrant-founded companies, which employed 450,000 workers in 2005. "
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india/article.cfm?articleid=4205
Read what industry leaders from Microsoft, Google, Intel and Sun are talking about. Why they look to India and China. You dont want to understand this. Thats fine too. You did not have proper education to know this. Ask your parents why they neglected you while finding their soulmates (or ****buddies).
You "dumb and dumber" people just used this country and thought no one will ever challenge you. Now that you know very well your good old days are over you're talking all garbage. Go and hide where you can. You're not lucky enough to enjoy this country like your grandfathers did!! Bad luck buddy.
Keep talking rubbish if you wish as you've nothing better to do.
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jsb
08-26 09:06 AM
I called uscis a couple of weeks agoand again today, I was told (by two different resp) that they go by Receipt date.
Of course they go by receipt date, but question is what is the receipt date? Each center enters data, and places folder in sequence of when they, the Center, received the file (and decided to accept it). This date is close to ND, but may be quite different than RD on your receipt, sometimes by several months (due to noone accepting huge volumes of July/Aug07 filings, or for some reason disputing as to which center should work on the case).
There are thousands of instances where cases were filed in July 07, but entered into the system in Sept/Oct 07. For all purposes, their RD is what you see online as "your case was received on...", which is close to ND.
See my earlier posts in this thread. If you ask a center if they are processing cases based on RD or ND, they will always say RD, because that is true based on their defintion of RD.
Of course they go by receipt date, but question is what is the receipt date? Each center enters data, and places folder in sequence of when they, the Center, received the file (and decided to accept it). This date is close to ND, but may be quite different than RD on your receipt, sometimes by several months (due to noone accepting huge volumes of July/Aug07 filings, or for some reason disputing as to which center should work on the case).
There are thousands of instances where cases were filed in July 07, but entered into the system in Sept/Oct 07. For all purposes, their RD is what you see online as "your case was received on...", which is close to ND.
See my earlier posts in this thread. If you ask a center if they are processing cases based on RD or ND, they will always say RD, because that is true based on their defintion of RD.
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golgappas
11-13 03:24 PM
Hi all:
Thanks for all your advice and understanding. I could not post earlier as we were busy following up the case with the authorities. I have two lawyers on board and a wonderful, unexpected, child abuse NGO person helping us deal with the situation. Most importantly, the baby is in perfect condition after having everything scanned and reviewed with two pediatricians�.it is possible, as one person helping us mentioned that the rough handling may appear exaggerated on the video bcos low resolution cameras sometimes exaggerate slower movements into sudden and forceful movements (I don�t fully understand)- which is also ok w/ me as my child having been safe is more imp to me....at the minimum she will be deported and barred from entry, or likely fully convicted and behind bars...from what I have heard till now, we will likely not be penalized as there are some protection and immunities in these cases for those who testify (and most certainly INS will never be involved)�and at most there may be some fines�
....and to some others who have misread a few things I mentioned: a/ the baby did not remain with the nanny for even a second after we suspected something fishy b/ we were not saving money with this nanny: 350$ (plus food, commute, and phone cards is above average here even for a legal worker. Also we selected her after observing her (and earlier another nanny) at home for 2 weeks with the baby while my mom-in-law was there and all of us had felt for some reason that she was the better one��..and to everybody with kids: no matter how much you trust your nanny, however well referenced they are- use a nannycam�.you may amazed at what you see�.there is something about having the whole house to yourself with an infant that makes some people crazy- so that their suppressed anger/envy and whatever else is hidden comes out on a poor speechless baby.
I rarely post but I have a 9 month old baby and was really upset to hear this. I am so glad you decided to report this and commend you for it. I hpe everything works out and this awful woman can never work near children again. And if I ever consider hiring a nanny I will be sure to get a nannycam
Thanks for all your advice and understanding. I could not post earlier as we were busy following up the case with the authorities. I have two lawyers on board and a wonderful, unexpected, child abuse NGO person helping us deal with the situation. Most importantly, the baby is in perfect condition after having everything scanned and reviewed with two pediatricians�.it is possible, as one person helping us mentioned that the rough handling may appear exaggerated on the video bcos low resolution cameras sometimes exaggerate slower movements into sudden and forceful movements (I don�t fully understand)- which is also ok w/ me as my child having been safe is more imp to me....at the minimum she will be deported and barred from entry, or likely fully convicted and behind bars...from what I have heard till now, we will likely not be penalized as there are some protection and immunities in these cases for those who testify (and most certainly INS will never be involved)�and at most there may be some fines�
....and to some others who have misread a few things I mentioned: a/ the baby did not remain with the nanny for even a second after we suspected something fishy b/ we were not saving money with this nanny: 350$ (plus food, commute, and phone cards is above average here even for a legal worker. Also we selected her after observing her (and earlier another nanny) at home for 2 weeks with the baby while my mom-in-law was there and all of us had felt for some reason that she was the better one��..and to everybody with kids: no matter how much you trust your nanny, however well referenced they are- use a nannycam�.you may amazed at what you see�.there is something about having the whole house to yourself with an infant that makes some people crazy- so that their suppressed anger/envy and whatever else is hidden comes out on a poor speechless baby.
I rarely post but I have a 9 month old baby and was really upset to hear this. I am so glad you decided to report this and commend you for it. I hpe everything works out and this awful woman can never work near children again. And if I ever consider hiring a nanny I will be sure to get a nannycam
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sodh
07-08 04:29 AM
Did anybody send flowers to their lawyers for filling their application on july 3rd even when everything was ready before june 29nth and i heard in my company that people paid 5000 usd to the lawyers to mail their applications on june 29th.
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ragz4u
04-22 07:11 PM
Your stories are pretty compelling. Could you please send me an email with your stories at shrey@immigrationvoice.org so that I can collate it together?
Others, please send us your stories by using the template in the first email. It would really help our cause.
Most of us are on this forum because of the injustice that the current immigration system perpetuates.
What is even more frustrating is that we are chasing this so called American Dream during the most potent years of our lives and literally wasting our lives away.
Employers indifference, incompetent lawyers and pathetic para legals all add up to make our best years the worst. I always used to wonder how come there is not one single place where all hi tech workers can discuss their issues and work together.
The illegal immigrants have orgs like La Raza to support them, pro bono lawyers working for them and senators and reps listening to them. We are just starting to realize that we also can work together and get ourselves heard. Being highly-skilled should NOT be a handicap for us!
I just hope IV is that elusive orgs for legal skilled immigrants...
Others, please send us your stories by using the template in the first email. It would really help our cause.
Most of us are on this forum because of the injustice that the current immigration system perpetuates.
What is even more frustrating is that we are chasing this so called American Dream during the most potent years of our lives and literally wasting our lives away.
Employers indifference, incompetent lawyers and pathetic para legals all add up to make our best years the worst. I always used to wonder how come there is not one single place where all hi tech workers can discuss their issues and work together.
The illegal immigrants have orgs like La Raza to support them, pro bono lawyers working for them and senators and reps listening to them. We are just starting to realize that we also can work together and get ourselves heard. Being highly-skilled should NOT be a handicap for us!
I just hope IV is that elusive orgs for legal skilled immigrants...
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Macaca
02-04 12:56 PM
Hey UN
Are you aware of State Deptt URLs that explain current immigration rules (similar to IRS rules) as following.
Someone posted a URL that requires a good choice of search words. Such a process may not get all info specially for a novice like me. Thanks.
From the November 2005 visa bulletin
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html
HOW IS THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED PER-COUNTRY LIMIT CALCULATED?
Section 201 of the INA sets an annual minimum Family-sponsored preference limit of 226,000, while the worldwide annual level for Employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000. Section 202 sets the per-country limit for preference immigrants at 7% of the total annual Family-sponsored and Employment-based preference limits, i.e. a minimum of 25,620.
The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
The AC21 removed the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such numbers available.
In recent years, the application of the rules outlined in AC21 has allowed countries such as China � mainland born, India, and the Philippines to utilize large amounts of employment numbers which would have otherwise gone unused.
During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap. It is anticipated that the addition of unused FY-2005 Family numbers and the remaining AC21 numbers to the 140,000 annual minimum will result in an FY-2006 annual Employment limit of 152,000. This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
Are you aware of State Deptt URLs that explain current immigration rules (similar to IRS rules) as following.
Someone posted a URL that requires a good choice of search words. Such a process may not get all info specially for a novice like me. Thanks.
From the November 2005 visa bulletin
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html
HOW IS THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED PER-COUNTRY LIMIT CALCULATED?
Section 201 of the INA sets an annual minimum Family-sponsored preference limit of 226,000, while the worldwide annual level for Employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000. Section 202 sets the per-country limit for preference immigrants at 7% of the total annual Family-sponsored and Employment-based preference limits, i.e. a minimum of 25,620.
The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
The AC21 removed the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such numbers available.
In recent years, the application of the rules outlined in AC21 has allowed countries such as China � mainland born, India, and the Philippines to utilize large amounts of employment numbers which would have otherwise gone unused.
During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap. It is anticipated that the addition of unused FY-2005 Family numbers and the remaining AC21 numbers to the 140,000 annual minimum will result in an FY-2006 annual Employment limit of 152,000. This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
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caforum2
11-12 01:04 PM
First of all, It is funny that the guy who knowingly broke the law want help of law when he is victim. Now all of us know why laws are made in first place and why everyone should follow it.
Secondly, Beating the dead horse again, Thunderbolt should go to cops and give evidence of child abuse asap.
In terms of risking the case of hiring illegal for a job by going to the cops in my mind is a non issue. Because, he is exposed to that risk with or without going to cops himself. What if Nanny gets caught working illegal in some other home and she gives all names she worked for including thunderbolt. He has done a mistake and he should hire best attorney to plead that case if it ever comes up either by him reporting child abuse or some other way.
Secondly, Beating the dead horse again, Thunderbolt should go to cops and give evidence of child abuse asap.
In terms of risking the case of hiring illegal for a job by going to the cops in my mind is a non issue. Because, he is exposed to that risk with or without going to cops himself. What if Nanny gets caught working illegal in some other home and she gives all names she worked for including thunderbolt. He has done a mistake and he should hire best attorney to plead that case if it ever comes up either by him reporting child abuse or some other way.
Deepika
11-11 06:07 PM
To thunderbolt,
Being a mother of a 9 month old baby i can understand what is going on in u now. First thing i feel is u have to some how get rid of her. I feel u have done a wrong thing first of hiring her. And how can u justify you paying her in cash. So i feel let her go. But then after she left what you should do is in your local websites and ads put up your review and video on her. And that would help another child being treated the way your baby was.
Why i feel that will help is, because i was looking for some kind of care for my baby and i did a 3 months complete survey on what is the right to do. So i am sure any mother will do the same thing in your local area and would come across your video and review.
Being a mother of a 9 month old baby i can understand what is going on in u now. First thing i feel is u have to some how get rid of her. I feel u have done a wrong thing first of hiring her. And how can u justify you paying her in cash. So i feel let her go. But then after she left what you should do is in your local websites and ads put up your review and video on her. And that would help another child being treated the way your baby was.
Why i feel that will help is, because i was looking for some kind of care for my baby and i did a 3 months complete survey on what is the right to do. So i am sure any mother will do the same thing in your local area and would come across your video and review.
santb1975
11-29 01:33 AM
I got this email from one of the So. Cal IV Members after requesting for donations for local chapter activities. I thought this was interesting and should share with Everyone
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Great to see the so cal members contributing....(3 days)
($10*10members) / Total members(100) = 1 dollar/member (and would surely increase)
Whereas in IV website (2 week)
$1185 / 25000 members = 4.7 cents/member
Just a thought..... its TRUE......
************************************************** ****
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Great to see the so cal members contributing....(3 days)
($10*10members) / Total members(100) = 1 dollar/member (and would surely increase)
Whereas in IV website (2 week)
$1185 / 25000 members = 4.7 cents/member
Just a thought..... its TRUE......
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